static and dynamic processes

[amitk3553 7]

Hello all,

 

What is the difference between static and dynamic processes?

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

Amit

[David Long 20]

Hi Amit,

 

Static processes are created before the start of simulation, by calling e.g. SC_THREAD macro or sc_spawn in the constructor or end_elaboration callback.

 

Dynamic processes are created by calling sc_spawn within another process (which will not be executed until the simulation is running).

 

Regards,

Dave

[amitk3553 7]

Hi Amit,

 

Static processes are created before the start of simulation, by calling e.g. SC_THREAD macro or sc_spawn in the constructor or end_elaboration callback.

 

Dynamic processes are created by calling sc_spawn within another process (which will not be executed until the simulation is running).

 

Regards,

Dave

Hello Dave

 

Here is my understanding as below.Please correct this

 

e.g.

 

processs A()

{

-----

-----

process B()

{

--------};

};

 

SC_CTOR(){

sc_thread(A);

sensitive<<a<<b;

}

 

here process a is static??

 

then implementation of B in A is dynamic process as done above??? or something else???

 

and what does mean by sc_spawn??

[apfitch 201]

Have a look at the example on p66 of the 1666-2011 IEEE SystemC standard - that shows at example of using sc_spawn to create a dynamic process.

 

In the code you've shown above, there are no dynamic processes. Your code doesn't seem to be valid C++ code, there's no keyword "process", you have to declare a void function to create a static process, e.g.

 

void e() {

  cout << "this is a dynamic process" << endl;

}

 

SC_MODULE(M) {

 

  void f() {

    cout << "This is a static process" << endl;

    wait(10, SC_NS);

    sc_spawn (&e);

  }

 

  SC_CTOR(M) {

     SC_THREAD(f)

 }

 

};

 

regards

Alan

[karandeep963 8]

Hi Amit,

 

Static processes are created before the start of simulation, by calling e.g. SC_THREAD macro or sc_spawn in the constructor or end_elaboration callback.

 

Dynamic processes are created by calling sc_spawn within another process (which will not be executed until the simulation is running).

 

Regards,

Dave

Hello Dave ,

 

Correct me ,

 

If I would say the process using static/dynamic sensitivity are static/dynamic process respectively , would be correct statement??????

 

If above is true then what would be called for a process implementing both static and dynamic events in the same ??? 

 

Regards,

KS

[amitk3553 7]

Have a look at the example on p66 of the 1666-2011 IEEE SystemC standard - that shows at example of using sc_spawn to create a dynamic process.

 

In the code you've shown above, there are no dynamic processes. Your code doesn't seem to be valid C++ code, there's no keyword "process", you have to declare a void function to create a static process, e.g.

 

void e() {

  cout << "this is a dynamic process" << endl;

}

 

SC_MODULE(M) {

 

  void f() {

    cout << "This is a static process" << endl;

    wait(10, SC_NS);

    sc_spawn (&e);

  }

 

  SC_CTOR(M) {

     SC_THREAD(f)

 }

 

};

 

regards

Alan

Hello Alan,

 

  Would you please explain the meaning of  following line:

 

  sc_spawn (&e);

 

 

 

Regards

Amit

[apfitch 201]

It launches the function e() as a dynamic process,

 

Alan

[amitk3553 7]

Hello alan,

 

What is event finder used in case of static process?

 

 

 

 

Regards

Amit

[David Long 20]

Hi KS,

 

Hello Dave ,

 

Correct me ,

 

If I would say the process using static/dynamic sensitivity are static/dynamic process respectively , would be correct statement??????

 

If above is true then what would be called for a process implementing both static and dynamic events in the same ??? 

 

Regards,

KS

 

No, you are mixing up static/dynamic sensitivity with static/dynamic processes. You can for example have a static process (e.g SC_THREAD) that makes use of dynamic sensitivity (e.g wait(x) ) or a dynamic process (sc_spawn) with static sensitivity (using sc_spawn_options - see section 5.5 of the LRM)).

 

Regards,

Dave

[amitk3553 7]

hello all,

 

Would dynamic process(as in above example) enter in initialisation phase ?

 

 

 

Regards

cam

[mohitnegi 4]

Hi Amit,

 

Static processes are created before the start of simulation, by calling e.g. SC_THREAD macro or sc_spawn in the constructor or end_elaboration callback.

 

Dynamic processes are created by calling sc_spawn within another process (which will not be executed until the simulation is running).

 

Regards,

Dave

Hi David ,

 

Is sc_spawn only way to create a dynamic process ...

[David Long 20]

Is sc_spawn only way to create a dynamic process ...

 

Yes.

 

Regards,

Dave

[apfitch 201]

In the above example, the dynamic process e() would not get executed during the initialisation phase.

Alan

[karandeep963 8]

Have a look at the example on p66 of the 1666-2011 IEEE SystemC standard - that shows at example of using sc_spawn to create a dynamic process.

 

In the code you've shown above, there are no dynamic processes. Your code doesn't seem to be valid C++ code, there's no keyword "process", you have to declare a void function to create a static process, e.g.

 

void e() {

  cout << "this is a dynamic process" << endl;

}

 

SC_MODULE(M) {

 

  void f() {

    cout << "This is a static process" << endl;

    wait(10, SC_NS);

    sc_spawn (&e);

  }

 

  SC_CTOR(M) {

     SC_THREAD(f)

 }

 

};

 

regards

Alan

Hello Alan,

 

Simulating the above code generates me the following errors:

 

 

1.cpp: In member function ‘void M::f()’:

1.cpp:13:20: error: ‘sc_spawn’ was not declared in this scope

make: *** [1.o] Error 1

 

using "systemc-2.3.0" library.

 

Please help.

 

Regards,

KS

[Philipp A Hartmann 220]

In order to use sc_spawn and dynamic processes in general with the Accellera SystemC implementation, please define SC_INCLUDE_DYNAMIC_PROCESSES before including SystemC:

 

#define SC_INCLUDE_DYNAMIC_PROCESSES
#include <systemc> // or <systemc.h>

hth,
  Philipp

[dakupoto 33]

The SystemC simulation engine performs two major tasks - 'elaboration'

and 'simulation'. In the elaboration step, the internal data structures to

used for the simulation are initialized. This corresponds to static process.

sc_spawn, sc_join etc., correspond to dynamic process.

[apfitch 201]

Hi Dakupoto,

  that's not strictly correct, have a look at p6 of the standard: using sc_spawn during elaboration creates a static process,

 

regards

Alan

[rahuljn 5]

Is it possible to emulate SC_THREAD by calling sc_spawn ?

[rahuljn 5]

As Dave said "Static processes are created before the start of simulation, by calling e.g. SC_THREAD macro or sc_spawn in the constructor or end_elaboration callback."

 

Any example to create static process using sc_spawn (no SC_THREAD) ?

[rahuljn 5]

Finally I am able to create process using sc_spawn() instead of SC_THREAD.

My question is in the following code, is the process process1 is static or dynamic process ?

 

class spawn_test : public sc_module {
    public:
    void process1();
    SC_HAS_PROCESS(spawn_test);
    spawn_test(sc_module_name name){
        //SC_THREAD(process1);
        sc_process_handle h1=sc_spawn(sc_bind(&spawn_test::process1,this));
     }
};

void spawn_test::process1(){
    cout<<"Hello1\n";
    wait(1,SC_NS);
    cout<<"Hello11\n";
}

int sc_main(int argc, char*argv[]){
    spawn_test* st = new spawn_test("st");
    sc_start(10,SC_NS);
    return 0;
}

[Philipp A Hartmann 220]

My question is in the following code, is the process process1 is static or dynamic process ?

 

Why don't you ask the process itself?

 std::cout << std::boolalpha << h1.dynamic() << std::endl;

Short answer: Processes created from the process macros SC_THREAD,... are called "unspawned" processes, whereas processes created by sc_spawn are called (surprise!) spawned processes. Unspawned processes are by definition static processes, as the macros can't be used during simulation.  On the other hand, spawned processes can be either static or dynamic processes:

 

A dynamic process is created during simulation, whereas a static process is created during elaboration.

 

hth,

Philipp

[rahuljn 5]

Hi

In the following example I am creating a process in end_of_elaboration method.

Alan mentioned above that process created in end_of_elaboration method are static but when I call dynamic(), it return 1. So it is dynamic.

#include "systemc.h"

class test : public sc_module {
    public:
    sc_process_handle h;
    SC_HAS_PROCESS(test);
    test(sc_module_name name){
    }
    void end_of_elaboration(){
        SC_THREAD(fun);
    }
    void fun(){
        h = sc_get_current_process_handle();
        cout<<h.dynamic()<<endl;
    }
};

int sc_main(int, char**){
    test t("t");
    sc_start();
    return 0;
}

 

Thanks

Rahul

[apfitch 201]

Hi Rahul,

 I think I said "during elaboration" rather than "in the end_of elaboration callback". Anyway, the standard says on page 6

 

"A static process is a process created during the construction of the module hierarchy or from the
before_end_of_elaboration callback.
A dynamic process is a process created from the end_of_elaboration callback or during simulation."

 

So I was wrong to say "elaboration" (which includes the end_of_elaboration callback according to section 4 of the standard), I should have referred to page 6,

 

kind regards

Alan

 

P.S. Have you really been thinking about this for 2 years? :-)